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Old 02-07-2010, 11:14 PM
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Thanks Pat....sorry for being impatient.

Bummer about the Gori prop Kai, especially if you gave it away cheap.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:14 PM
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I just found this today, and there is finally a definitive answer from Yanmar on gear selection while sailing.

Advisory Number:MSA08-003

DATE February 8, 2008
TO: All Marine Distributors, Dealers and OEMS
SUBJECT: Gear in Neutral While Sailing
MODELS: All Sailboat Engines

We continue to get questions regarding the correct gear position while sailing with the engine OFF. This advisory is issued as a reminder; Yanmar requires that if sailing with the engine OFF (not running) the transmission shifter must be in the neutral position or internal damage to the gear or sail-drive will result. This damage will not be covered by Yanmar’s Limited Warranty. Please instruct customers and dealers who deliver the sailboat to the customer, of the correct (Neutral) position for the marine gear while sailing.

If the customer desires that the propeller shaft not spin while sailing, either a folding propeller, shaft break, or other suitable device may be used. However, Yanmar accepts no responsibility for the selection, installation, or operation of such devices. Please also refer to Marine service advisory “MSA07-001_Yanmar Sail Drive Propeller Selection” for additional information.

If you have any questions regarding this advisory please contact a Customer Support Representative at (770) 877- 9894.
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Um... das what *I* said! (my Yanmar manual said the same thing)

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I just found this today, and there is finally a definitive answer from Yanmar on gear selection while sailing.

Advisory Number:MSA08-003

DATE February 8, 2008
TO: All Marine Distributors, Dealers and OEMS
SUBJECT: Gear in Neutral While Sailing
MODELS: All Sailboat Engines

We continue to get questions regarding the correct gear position while sailing with the engine OFF. This advisory is issued as a reminder; Yanmar requires that if sailing with the engine OFF (not running) the transmission shifter must be in the neutral position or internal damage to the gear or sail-drive will result. This damage will not be covered by Yanmar’s Limited Warranty. Please instruct customers and dealers who deliver the sailboat to the customer, of the correct (Neutral) position for the marine gear while sailing.

If the customer desires that the propeller shaft not spin while sailing, either a folding propeller, shaft break, or other suitable device may be used. However, Yanmar accepts no responsibility for the selection, installation, or operation of such devices. Please also refer to Marine service advisory “MSA07-001_Yanmar Sail Drive Propeller Selection” for additional information.

If you have any questions regarding this advisory please contact a Customer Support Representative at (770) 877- 9894.
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Old 03-23-2010, 01:40 PM
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man you guy's are impatient.....

Been in school all week....anyway, the KM2 and 3 don;t care N or R. If you go R, it may be difficult to return to N before starting. This is due to prop forces "packing" the drive cone into the gear. Engage the starter and bump the shifter out of gear while the engine is turning.
Ok Sully, but just so there is no confusion. I think this is what Yanmar doesn't want you doing.
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G'Day all,

Quoting from Yanmar's advice: "If the customer desires that the propeller shaft not spin while sailing, either a folding propeller, shaft break..."

Breaking the shaft seems a rather way of avoiding tranny damage!! (Ho,ho).

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Hey Jim, I teach courses on typo
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I just found this today, and there is finally a definitive answer from Yanmar on gear selection while sailing.

Advisory Number:MSA08-003

DATE February 8, 2008
TO: All Marine Distributors, Dealers and OEMS
SUBJECT: Gear in Neutral While Sailing
MODELS: All Sailboat Engines

We continue to get questions regarding the correct gear position while sailing with the engine OFF. This advisory is issued as a reminder; Yanmar requires that if sailing with the engine OFF (not running) the transmission shifter must be in the neutral position or internal damage to the gear or sail-drive will result. This damage will not be covered by Yanmar’s Limited Warranty. Please instruct customers and dealers who deliver the sailboat to the customer, of the correct (Neutral) position for the marine gear while sailing.

If the customer desires that the propeller shaft not spin while sailing, either a folding propeller, shaft break, or other suitable device may be used. However, Yanmar accepts no responsibility for the selection, installation, or operation of such devices. Please also refer to Marine service advisory “MSA07-001_Yanmar Sail Drive Propeller Selection” for additional information.

If you have any questions regarding this advisory please contact a Customer Support Representative at (770) 877- 9894.
I have a folding prop. When I leave the transmission in neutral I can hear the prop turning. When I place it in reverse I do not hear any noise or the prop spinning. I have been leaving the trans in reverse. The previous owner stated leave it in reverse, but it is OK to leave it in neutral.
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Old 03-23-2010, 08:25 PM
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George, maybe you should call the number, unless Sully has the answer? So you have a Yanmar engine, with a Kanzaki transmission? My guess is to keep doing what you've been doing. I read posts elsewhere that said they had 5000 hours on the trans, running it in reverse with no ill effects.

My original post was that of concern leaving the trans in neutral when sailing. It just made the most sense to me, but was afraid I was screwing something up.

It's pretty much a given that you will not get an owner's manual when you buy a used (older) boat. Funny how questions seem to pop into your head once the PO has gone. Another basic operation question I had was, do you leave the key turned on, once you're out motoring along. I had been turning it off and removing it and stowing it in the cabin. It is easy for someone to bump against it when underway. Since it isn't needed after startup up, I was turning it off and removing it but didn't think about temp or oil pressure warnings. They won't do you much good if the key is in the off position. Again, just a simple mistake but one that could be costly.
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Should I be concerned about the prop making a noise and spinning? I have a folding prop but in neutral the prop continues to spin. The noise will drive you nuts. Well, with that stated I need to call the number and see what they say. I will report back after the call.
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Old 03-23-2010, 10:22 PM
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I would think it's fine to leave it in reverse with a folding prop. I'm not the one to ask, just passing on what Yanmar says. They are pretty clear, but don't know how it applies to folding props. Sorry.
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