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Old 02-03-2010, 05:12 PM
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I have been leaving my transmission in neutral when sailing, but have read discussions saying you should put it in gear. Some say reverse? I have a Kanzaki KM3a transmission if that matters? The manual doesn't make mention of this, so just asking what you do?
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:34 PM
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In general, marine transmissions should be in reverse or nuetral. I had a long discussion on another forum about the Borg Warner, as this is a fluid drive like an automatic. The idea of the trans turning while the engine is not running worried me. Borg Warner originally had a warning about this in the manual, but they later retracted it, and advised to keep the trans in reverse when sailing.
The best solution? Buy a feathering prop.
Since I do not know your specific trans, I will say nuetral if it is a gear drive, and reverse if it is hydraulic.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:39 PM
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I have been leaving my transmission in neutral when sailing, but have read discussions saying you should put it in gear. Some say reverse? I have a Kanzaki KM3a transmission if that matters? The manual doesn't make mention of this, so just asking what you do?
I don't know about your transmission but most are to be kept in neutral and have a lock to keep it from turning from the force of the water. It seems that the trans turning will put wear on the bearings/etc without lubrication. You can imagine the rest.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:49 PM
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The manual shows:

Model Transmission

3GMD KM3A
3GM30 KM3A or KM3P
3GM30F KM3A or KM3P

The manual only says: Oil contained in the transmission case lubricates the internal transmission components.

I certainly see no pump of any kind.
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I keep mine in reverse and have a feathering prop. It likes to be in reverse better than in neutral.
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You would not see the pump. It is internal.
Shu, most boats do not have a shaft lock, although, they should. That is an item well worth adding.
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Thanks Charlie. I hope things are well with your boat.

I do not have a shaft lock I'm guessing. The transmission does turn when I'm sailing, but slowly.

I looked at the manual and in the rebuild chapter I see no pump. I'll have a look throught the parts manual.

I guess it couldn't hurt to leave it in reverse anyway? The engine will start in gear, because I accidentally did this once. No harm there.
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You would not see the pump. It is internal.
Shu, most boats do not have a shaft lock, although, they should. That is an item well worth adding.
I...got one!
Thank you previous owner.
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When in doubt, do what the manual says. When that's not clear, do what these guys say.

All I know about this stuff is that with my old 45' monohull, I was sailing along in neutral at a nice clip. I jammed it into reverse to see how she'd do with a locked prop and we lost 2 knots of speed off the boat. I also nearly lost my transmission doing that at 6.5 knots!! YIKES! Duh!

But the moral of my experience is that it's an incredible drag on the boat unless you have a folding prop. I don't know theory... that's just real life experience with a 3 blade bronze non-folding prop on a 45' monohull.

As to catamarans, many have sail drives. Yanmar says saildrives should always be kept in neutral when sailing to avoid pressure on the shifting pins. You'll void the warranty on a saildrive if you keep it in gear instead of freewheeling.

I like freewheeling props myself.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:07 PM
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So, is there a consensus here? The manual doesn't give me an answer. Charlie's answer makes sense...*if* you have a folding prop. There would be less drag, and no reason to have it freewheel.
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