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Old 06-14-2009, 12:09 AM
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Thanks Maren, I'll add it to my boat bag list....that keeps on growing!
You're gonna need a bigger boat. That list gets huge after while
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Old 07-03-2009, 05:55 PM
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Run a piece of chain on either end of your mooring lines, to take the chafe where it goes thru a chock, or around a dock side rail, or piling . Chain will never chafe , nor will the lines around a thimble, or clove hithched thru the chain link. Go well oversized on your lines.
I build all my chocks and mooring bits to take a higher load than any line that will ever go thru them. My mooring bitts are good for 90 tons sheer strength.
Three strand line makes a far more reliable splice than braid.
You could also sew thru a braid splice with sail twine to eliminate the total reliance on friction to hold the splice together.
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Old 07-03-2009, 06:26 PM
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Run a piece of chain on either end of your mooring lines, to take the chafe where it goes thru a chock, or around a dock side rail, or piling . Chain will never chafe , nor will the lines around a thimble, or clove hithched thru the chain link. Go well oversized on your lines.
I build all my chocks and mooring bits to take a higher load than any line that will ever go thru them. My mooring bitts are good for 90 tons sheer strength.
Three strand line makes a far more reliable splice than braid.
You could also sew thru a braid splice with sail twine to eliminate the total reliance on friction to hold the splice together.
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Thanks Brent... Funny how a thread about replacing halyards has ended on mooring lines for hurricane preparation. But hurricane season is here. What you say sounds good, but I'm not getting it exactly. The chain around the piling I understand (what size for a 7 ton boat). I'm just not getting the part about attaching your lines to the chain. Any pics?
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Thanks Brent... Funny how a thread about replacing halyards has ended on mooring lines for hurricane preparation. But hurricane season is here. What you say sounds good, but I'm not getting it exactly. The chain around the piling I understand (what size for a 7 ton boat). I'm just not getting the part about attaching your lines to the chain. Any pics?
Anyone have a pic or diagram of how to properly attach mooring lines to chain? My dock neighbor is already putting double lines on his boat, and removing his bimini and dodger every trip. I told him he'd have plenty of time to get to the boat if a hurricane was coming into the Gulf. He replied...what if it forms in the Gulf?!

I'm thinking it would be wise to at least have all the supplies, parts, lines, or whatever would be needed beforehand. And a plan of course.
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I like using this splice. It's held me at anchor now since the mid-2000's:




It puts more surface area of the line in contact with the links of the chain than that typical "backsplice" people use. My feeling is that when the wear is going on, it's better to have it spread out over more line than having it only in one, small spot.

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Sully, thanks.

Actually, I should have said dock lines.

I'm trying to eliminate the use of the tide risers at my dock, as I have been told they can and do fail during hurricane force winds. That was info given by the hurricane seminar BA went to. I'm wanting to run chain around the pilings as Brent recommended, and attach my dock lines to the chain.
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Hurricane school suggested we make loops to go around the pilings. The loop can best be described as a necklace of 1" - 2" sections of pvc pipe with rope threaded through.

This will protect the line from abrasion and will allow the line to rise and fall with the surge and not hang up as the pipe sections act as rollers.

I will probably use 1"- 3 strand rope and 1 1/2" pvc. I guess one could use either cable or chain instead of rope.

I understand Kemah Hardware is making some to sell.
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Hurricane school suggested we make loops to go around the pilings. The loop can best be described as a necklace of 1" - 2" sections of pvc pipe with rope threaded through.

This will protect the line from abrasion and will allow the line to rise and fall with the surge and not hang up as the pipe sections act as rollers.

I will probably use 1"- 3 strand rope and 1 1/2" pvc. I guess one could use either cable or chain instead of rope.

I understand Kemah Hardware is making some to sell.

Thanks BA. Just trying to prepare myself and not FREAK when the time comes.
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Thanks BA. Just trying to prepare myself and not FREAK when the time comes.
Doesn't hurt to be prepared but you will freak anyway untill you know the true condition of your boat in the aftermath...if it should happen.
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Doesn't hurt to be prepared but you will freak anyway untill you know the true condition of your boat in the aftermath...if it should happen.
You are right my friend. I am dreading that day, and hope she comes through as she did with IKE.
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